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RICHARD PREBBLE: AI Could Make Big Government Even Bigger

On a flight to Wellington the passenger beside me introduced himself.


“I’m from IBM. We are developing for Railways a world-leading wages management system.”


All my alarm bells went off.


“World-leading”, “computer system”, and “government department” are three phrases that usually mean cost overruns and eventual disappointment.


I was Minister of Railways. I had never heard that Railways was buying a “world-leading” wages system.


When I reached my office, I summoned Railways management.


They explained that Railways had unique requirements developed over a century: wet money, dirt money, overtime rates, shift allowances and dozens of special categories.


Armies of wages clerks struggled to keep track of it all.


No standard payroll system could supposedly cope. Railways needed a bespoke system costing millions.


I rang the rail unions. They agreed the system was unmanageable. Workers were often paid incorrectly. Workers had a low base pay made up by allowances. As their superannuation was based on the low base wage it meant a low income in retirement.


We reached agreement to simplify the entire structure. Staff shifted to salaries instead of complicated allowances and overtime calculations. Retirement incomes improved. 


Even with extra cost of superannuation payments the savings to railways was significant.


The cheapest computer reform was not building a better computer system. It was simplifying the system itself.


I had a similar experience as Minister of Police.


Police Headquarters wanted me to approve a bespoke computer system called INCIS — the Integrated National Crime Information System. Officials said it would be “world leading” and revolutionise policing by monitoring and coordinating virtually every aspect of frontline police work.


I thought they were asking the wrong question.


Frontline police are not motivated by helping headquarters monitor them more efficiently. If anything, they will quietly ensure such systems fail.


I asked a simpler question: what actually wastes police time?


Headquarters did not know.


A survey found frontline officers were spending huge amounts of time two figure typing repetitive reports.


I explained that I had seen many large government computer systems that had failed and predicted that the INCIS system would also fail. I suggested a far simpler reform: modern word-processing equipment and touch-typing competency for recruits.


Headquarters preferred the grander vision.


The Police waited until I left the portfolio and persuaded subsequent ministers to green-light the INCIS project. It consumed around $100 million, took years to build and was ultimately abandoned as unworkable. It became one of New Zealand’s worst public-sector IT failures.


That history is worth remembering when ministers now announce that artificial intelligence will dramatically reduce civil service numbers.


It is far more likely that bespoke AI systems will result in huge cost blow outs.  The AI systems may even require even more civil servants.


AI certainly can improve productivity.


Anyone who regularly uses tools like Copilot or ChatGPT knows they can draft reports, summarise documents, prepare briefings, search regulations and answer routine queries remarkably quickly.


Simply giving many public servants access to competent AI tools would probably lift productivity noticeably.


But governments consistently misunderstand where technology savings come from.


The biggest gains rarely come from giant bespoke systems designed by consultants and officials. They come from simplifying processes, eliminating unnecessary rules and asking frontline staff what wastes their time.


New Zealand governments have an especially poor record buying large custom-built computer systems. Departments always insist their requirements are unique.


Complexity expands. Consultants multiply. Costs blow out.


AI could easily become the next version of this cycle.


Every department will want its own carefully tailored “AI solution” designed around thousands of pages of existing processes and reporting requirements.


The risk is that we automate bureaucracy instead of reducing it.


Technology by itself does not usually shrink government. Often it merely allows government to generate more forms, more reporting and more compliance.


National risks repeating the same mistake that is the reason the cost of government keeps increasing.


Nicola Willis and Christopher Luxon have not properly analysed why spending and borrowing keeps rising.


The Government is still trying to carry out almost every activity created by the previous Labour Government — only more efficiently.


That may improve administration at the margin. It will not significantly shrink the state.


There is only one consistently proven way to reduce the size of government: stop doing things.


New Zealand now has 28 ministers holding about 80 portfolios across more than 40 departments. Every new activity creates another layer of officials, reporting, coordination and compliance.


Governments do not become smaller because they buy better computers.  They just produce more paperwork faster.


A smaller state requires ministers willing to stop doing some things altogether.

That is a political decision, not a technological one.


The Honourable Richard Prebble CBE is a former member of the New Zealand Parliament. Initially a member of the Labour Party, he joined the newly formed ACT New Zealand party under Roger Douglas in 1996, becoming its leader from 1996 to 2004.


 
 
 

20 Comments


Andromeda
7 hours ago

Richard, as others have pointed out, technology rarely solves problems, if the underlying processes are not kept streamlined and simple.


Having been involved with technology and automation most of my life, most, if not all business automation projects I have been involved in, succeeded because the underlying process were sorted out and optimised first. And in the highly successful ones, the principles underlying processes were identified and honoured.


However, one move that could bring instant relief to govt, is the elimination of communication managers. If someone in charge of a department or portfolio is not able or capable of communicating the pubic and/or answer ad-lib questions, they are not worthy of their job, and it raises red flags.


Take Ardern,…


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Mick
10 hours ago

I have owned several businesses. I learnt early on that the way to reduce costs was to simplify and cut Rarely did spending money result in saving money.

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nickwillemse60
12 hours ago

Richard Prebble,

With your experience in the w...as....pne.../,st, You will probably be more aware at how g.....ov....t can stuff things up than us plebs out here, so yes you are dead right.!! so yes agree.??

OK. so those who have actually followed what has happened, especially from when un..../,cle Helleen was in poower, up to the present day, will by now realise, that there is no longer any difference between virtually any party except the extreme wokeness of some minor parties.


Result is a green/red, blue/red, black/red, yellow/red, & of course the red/red party. Mmm what am I trying to say here.?? Well actually for the uninitiated, they are all in the same bed and thats why now the age…

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pghayward
12 hours ago

Eric Crampton, in a piece titled "The Great Equalizer" argued that Ministers should be able to use AI to quickly cut through the voluminous bureaucratic crap that their departments dump on them in the course of running the country in "Sir Humphrey" fashion. It's well worth a read

If anything, "the Minister using AI directly" should simply replace thousands of bureaucrats.

https://www.nzinitiative.org.nz/reports-and-media/opinion/the-great-equalizer/

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Andromeda
6 hours ago
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All commercial AI breaches privacy principles in 99.99% of cases, and every AI project I've looked at, failed privacy tests in the first few minutes. Mind you, most Cloud implementations do as well. The sheer volume of data privacy breaches worldwide happen because privacy principles are not being implemented.


AI is not the solution, no matter how attractive it appears. Privacy comes first.

All around the world on a daily basis, there are millions of privacy breaches. AI has just made it easier.


AI is not the solution. Designing simpler systems and streamlining processes is.


Every time you run an AI query, the query, the data you are asking to be worked on, any required credentials, is being uploaded to…


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koremoa
14 hours ago

Richard, well put, however, if such systems are needed it needs to be understood that slick salespersons from international computer companies have been well schooled in the art of the sale. The sale is everything, the technological benefits secondary. Sales generate revenue for the sales person and in these sorts of cases big revenue.


These sales persons are all imbued with loads of personality and confidence. They are capable of pulling the wool over most civil servants or ministers eyes with much demand for their time and who are also much focused on making a mark during their tenure and enhancing their reputation for the next promotion or for ministers making a difference during the three year political term that…


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