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PETER COLLINS: Civil War? Can MFAT use UNDRIP to destroy us?

I 'identify' as a New Zealander though I came here fleeing Europe in my mother's arms during the 1930s. I have no indigenous blood though many of my friends have.


I think I understand that the proposed India Free Trade Treaty has an UNDRIP problem - much has been written about that by better pens than mine.

The issue is not mine, however, it hits all of us. There are two excellent references that predate most of us: "But Now We Want the Land Back: A History of the Australian Aboriginal People" by Hannah Middleton (1977). "Sleeping Dogs": movie (1977). At least watch the movie - this land, riven by its factions.


Is the issue as simple as it seems? Does some government department believe that we all want the Europeans to treat us fairly, as if we had just been invaded and we were still in a state of "Them versus Us", separate and distinguishable?


But it's not like that at all. The land might indeed have been effectively stolen from us by a pretence that it was worth only a few muskets, steel axes and blankets. If that had been last week it would make sense to say "Now we want it back. We want back our tribal councils, we want back our forests and rivers, undespoiled. We want back our language. We want back our tribal wars."


Fortunately this debate is not about territory. The debate is not "Give us back the land. We will give back the axes, alphabet and airports. We will give back the blankets, buses and businesses. We will give back the muskets, microwaves and multiculturalism. We will tear up the houses, hospitals and hotels; the telephones, TVs and trains; medicines, motorways and motels; roads, roofs and refrigerators. Begone, with all your tawdry flim-flam. Give us back the land."


This debate is about governance. By governance based on race. It may not be obvious, but that is most assuredly the issue.


We are lucky that there is little "Them versus Us". For it is useless to say "Will the last full-blood please turn out the light" even though there may be many with pure indigenous genes, as there are many with purely non-indigenous genes. Useless because we cannot separate out the genes that are mixed, as very, very many are.


So the question turns on whether the country should be run by two, separate bureaucracies, with their own rules, taxes, laws and penalties? To what extent would speeding fines vary according to your genetic proportion? This is a far from trivial issue. Separation of fishing rights are already dealt with on this basis. However, in due course, as our population genes become further mixed, we may need to modify such legislation.


If there is an idea that there be some separation of rights or obligations, based on having any indigenous gene whatsoever, should there not also be a similar separation based on having any nonindigenous gene whatsoever? We cannot separate out the genes. We cannot tear up the factories, railways and shopping centres.


We already have a treaty. We are gradually winning the struggle to achieve the fairness that was envisaged centuries ago. Is it appropriate for us to consider discarding that for a "Declaration" drafted to include countries with no such treaty as ours?


We are an "Us". There is no "Them" any more.


Do we really want a race-based apartheid, regardless of which 'race' is uppermost?


Peter Collins is a pilot and former Management Consultant and Technical Writer

 
 
 

43 Comments


charlie.baycroft
2 hours ago

Ancestral privilege, regardless of who gets the benefits is abhorrent and a violation of the most basic principle of Democracy, that All people have the same equal rights, privileges, opportunities, advantages and RESPONSIBILITIES regardless of their ancestral or other diffferences.

Ancestry is but an accident of birth that deserves no special status or benefits.

We are all born owning nothing and die the same. We can all inherit or earn what we p0ssess while alive or lose it if we fail to defend and protect it.

There is no justifiction for taking what other people have and giving it to the descendents of ancestors who failed to appreciate, defend and protect what they had long ago.

Some of us were born…

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zespritz
zespritz
2 hours ago

Like the Conservative Party in the UK, tightly holding onto the chairs, with one hand on the fiddle, as their self navigated Titanic slips its decks beneath the waves of time, still belching the smoke of cronie capitalism past. It will never resurface. Labor would dress its decks in rainbow colors and Moor Flags, but it too would slip below the waves, a hull breached by the jagged impact of icy cold false narratives, burdened by the deathly grip of Covid overreach and weighed down by the burden of climate lies. It too will founder with many naive lives lost, Straddling an ideological fence makes little difference when you are in the mud astride a maritime trench. Voters tend…

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Unknown member
2 hours ago

The mess we are in is being perpetrated by the National Party. The same one that signed UNDRIP. They are happy seeing our democratic basis being destroyed. Consider this, two National Party Prime Ministers declared they would get rid of the Maori seats in parliament, as they should, but the did nothing. Now we have two coalition partites wanting the trermination of the seats but the National Pary won't even declare their position on the matter. National Party fence sitting and enjoying the status quo as they have largely for the last 50 or so years.

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colonel.blimp
colonel.blimp
2 hours ago
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What Can I say, apart from...


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zespritz
zespritz
3 hours ago

There is a group of Internationalists that have as their Agenda, World Control. They have their Representatives at the UN, at UNDRIP, at Global Finance, IMF and the Bank of International Settlements.

They have their Nominees at various Governments, which is why you see political support for the UN and IMF Agendas that are completely at variance to the best interests of that Nation and its People, including its Voting Citizens. These Representatives tend to gravitate to Committees where they can control the "Nomination" of controlled Candidates (Particularly Political and Judicial candidates), into positions that advance the Internationalists Agenda.

We need to understand the primary focus today is for the Internationalists to control the world's resources and in particular energy…

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pghayward
19 minutes ago
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I think you are right. 2020 was when I woke up to these sorts of possibilities. One of the main smokescreens of all this stuff, is the condemnation of "conspiracy theories" and "conspiracy theorists" when in fact these people are correct and the conspiracy is only too real, and so outrageous that ordinary people can't believe it is real and not just a theory on the fringe. And you are so right about the useful idiots; good luck to Maori when the brave new world arrives; just as "indigenous peoples" were obviously oppressed under real communist regimes, even as they were being weaponized against the West by communist subversives during the Cold War.

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granto
3 hours ago

Ms Booth was correct in 2010 when recommending that NZ do not sign up to UNDRIP on the basis that NZ had a Treaty with the colonists tribes of NZ that occupied the land on arrival of the British ( ie the Maori - they are not indigenous as many have previously pointed out, They just arrived on earlier boats). Her advice was followed and we were one of 4 countries not to sign up in 2010. The Key government signed up in 2017 - along with repealing the Foreshore and Seabed Act ( probably conditions of its coalition deal with the Maori Party).

We should now do what India did and qualify our " membership" of UNDRIP by…

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ron
ron
an hour ago
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Am with you with regards adopting a similar stance to India on indigeneity. Where we apparently depart is on the wisdom of preserving the Māori culture other than as an important historical artefact. Why, because its core values aren't conducive to moving forward as one liberal democratic people, nor to success in a modern techno-scientific world. The latter would not apply if Māori had been Japanese, say, but in that case, with that level of development and accomplishment NZ probably wouldn't have been colonised at all.

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